Talk:Arcane Transmutation

As a new user I would like to see a picture or diagram of what is supposed to go in the Arcane Transmutation interface, there are a number of slots all are unlabeled as to what should go in them, it's a bit confusing.


 * Agree, a more detailed guide would help new users. Guidelines on what types of equipment make certain types of manastones, examples, etc.  Any pitfalls related, what is destroyed, chance of failure, etc.


 * Could people please sign their names, so that there is less confusion on these discussion pages? I agree that this needs fuller explanation, but that's true of 99% of everything in this wiki.  For this particular article, I would like a clearer explanation of terms, such as "piece of equipment".  "Enhancing a piece of equipment with transmutation is a multi-step process..." makes sense to me:  maybe I want to enhance my hand axe, and I would need x and y ingredients applied in a multi-step process.  But "you combine a fusion stone with a single piece of equipment to create a mana stone"  doesn't make sense to me.  My first reaction is horror: I could combine my beloved hand axe with a fusion stone and lose both the fusion stone and the axe and be left with a mana stone?  This sounds like something I would not want to try!  What exactly is this "piece of equipment"?  Is it really, as it sounds, a garment or weapon item?  Should we be warned not to use something we might want to keep, or is this misworded and misleading?  The article goes on to say that you combine three mana stones with another piece of equipment (or is it the same piece of equipment, which somehow survives the earlier process?) to transfer the weak runes (where did they come from?  are they on the mana stones?) to the piece, but then the next sentence says "the six weakest runes are transferred over."  Six?  How are there six?  Wasn't I using three mana stones?  This is simply not clear.  If you have to already know how this process works in order to make sense of the article, then the article is worthless. Celadin 00:06, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

This bit needs fleshing out: There are exceptions to the transmutation of fusion stones into mana stones: Level 50 Purple becomes Tier 4 level 54 blue becomes Tier 4 so one would expect level 58 green to become Tier 4

Since I don't have any gear at these levels, can someone who does add the Tier shown in the equipment description to this Talk page? In particular, I'd like to see if there is a Tier difference between color levels in the equipment itself.Metraxis 13:02, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Summary of how it works for equipment
Step 1: get a piece of equipment (any weapon or armour, preferably old crud you don't use anymore) and a fusion stone. Use the transmutor on them to destroy them and get a mana stone in return. This mana stone inherits the tier of the equipment and the six "weakest" of the combined list of attributes of the equipment and the fusion stone.

Step 2, 3: same for other pieces of equipment and fusion stones.

Now you have three mana stones. They have no record of what equipment was used, except for its tier and its attributes.

Step 4: combine three mana stones and another piece of equipment to merge the attributes of the mana stones and the equipment. The six weakest attributes are kept.

So far, so good. Easy, and good for enhancing wings. I've done this to get a pair of wings with Int/Dex/Sta/Force/FireResistance. Since they are also +2, they have an impressive list of green enhancements.

However, there is a contradiction: the tier of the mana stones may not be higher than the tier of the receiving equipment, but in order to raise the tier of the equipment, I must use mana stones of higher tier. Which is it? Forbidden or required in order to raise the receiving equipment?

There is another contradiction, this time about wings: I have seen text that says that you cannot use drillers to enhance wings, but I have also seen special drillers specifically for wings... Cynique 09:49, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * A clarification here - I previously played Guild Wars, and tend to ignore the distinction between types of protective gear. To me it is all armour, because it is all armour in Guild Wars, regardless of how you craft it, but then again, in GW you have to "craft" it, as GW foes do not drop armour you can wear, but "craft" means "buy from a special merchant in exchange for gold and materials", in some cases vast quantities of hideously expensive materials.  Cynique 10:00, 10 June 2011 (UTC)

Zodiac Pets Info
I think Zodiac Pets issue deserves a section on Arcane Transmutation, but I am not good in wiki wordings and formatting, or in English phrasing at all. If one adds such a well worded section I may later help adding charges and number of element required, if you still need such help by then. This can be done either from scratch or in steps, or, off course, by noting both. Unknown (talk) 09:47, 29 May 2013 (UTC)